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NUTV : At The End of My Leash
Posted by: AboutDogTraining3
Video duration: 142 seconds
Brad Pattison ignores 100 years of animal science in favor of a pain based, intimidation centered approach to training.
IPDTA Statement:
IPDTA (International Positive Dog Training Association) does not endorse the teachings of Caesar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) or Brad Pattison (At The End Of My Leash) for the following reasons:
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Pattison's CET trainers are useless
Posted by: AboutDogTraining3
Video duration: 46 seconds
Thinking of wasting your money with a Brad Pattison CET?
Think again. They are uninformed and inexperienced.
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Latest comments made on this video:
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 14 May 12, 01:26:13
you fucking retareded asshole. The? evidence already shows you know jack shit about dogs or about how the behave. So it's best if youSTFU
By: sunwoo0208. on 13 May 12, 18:20:34
Also. Are you really arrogant enough to believe humans have? evolved the dogs enough to get rid of their wolf instincts completely? you're a joke. Not only in the sense of dog training but wild life in general. I've seen your uploaded videos, hoping to find some vids of you training dogs to study your method. All I found was criticism of other trainers...insecure bruh? lolol do your homework and then talk to me young one, for you are not yet ready to debate me.
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 13 May 12, 17:57:39
You are an idiot. Feral dog populations have been? extensively studied. THEY DON'T FORM PACKS. THEY DON'T HAVE ALPHAS. If you weren't so stupid, you would already know this.
By: sunwoo0208. on 13 May 12, 12:58:03
you think dogs don't form packs because they are seldom in the wild in large numbers...most of them have an owner or are at the pound. Almost all animals in life move in a pack you would know this if you knew even remotely about animals and wildlife. You're ignorance bothers me. You're stubbornness also bothers me. Thats a nasty concoction. Stop spreading your misleading? information and videos. You're a hater. I feel bad for you :(
By: MrKp5259. on 17 Jan 12, 19:40:47
@asddance ...ya you think, I would love to see how that little lock would hold up when I am doing field work? with high-drive Pits and Rottweilers
By: pokerloup. on 16 Jan 12, 08:25:16
So, AboutDogTraining3, where can I find your videos on dog training? Did you post some on YouTube or is? your whole life based on Pattison's and Millan's actions?
By: msminnamouse. on 10 Dec 11, 09:08:18
Why is it that it's the new thing for? people who know nothing about dog behavior or training to call themselves specialists?
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 01 Nov 11, 02:03:45
@blazflare, because of the? evidence... that is, the actual observations don't support the claim about pack behavior and fixed hierarchy. Familiarize with the work of Beck, Bonnani, Mech, Boitani, Ciucci, Coppinger, Bradshaw, Kerhove,
By: blazflare. on 31 Oct 11, 11:44:08
AboutDogTraining, I've noticed that you're pretty intent on disproving claims made against you. Just curious, are? you a certified dog psychologist, or perhaps an evolutionary biologist? Because there is irrefutable evidence, be it morphological similarities, DNA or amino acid homologies, and even fossil records, that dogs are indeed derivations of divergent evolution; a product of domestication, artificial selection, and hence descendants of wolves. Why not the pack behaviour?
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 21 Oct 11, 23:31:35
@itaym, you are wrong. In fact you are humanizing dogs by thing they are? trying to dominate you and seeking status by climbing on your couch. Pattison is a bloody moron. And dogs do not form packs.
By: itaymr. on 21 Oct 11, 22:30:27
Stop humanizing dogs, it's nothing like kids and parents, training? dogs and the alpha roll is DIFFRENT in human life and dog life. It's diffrent in PACKS and FAMILLIES.
By: fml3131. on 22 Aug 11, 16:44:01
- Hey pal, i totally agreed with what u said. I have a friend who had an aggressive american bull terrier that often bit? his relatives n friends when they pay him a visit. He hired trainers after trainers, to teach the dog, but all gave up on him, saying that colby(his dog), could not be trained n 1 of them even asked him to bring it to the shelter due to his aggressiveness and unwillingness to obey. Then came another friend's advice n asked him to watch cesar's videos... IT WORKED!
By: CoolAnimals246. on 17 Aug 10, 02:23:28
Wow...dog trainer? you do like?
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 16 Feb 10, 04:34:23
Actually, I? think Millan is a bigger threat to dogs, but Pattison is a bigger douchebag. And unlike Millan, Pattison has malicious intentions.
By: csurridge14. on 16 Feb 10, 02:47:42
Personal beef against Pattison? Wow... guy who posted this video needs to? take it easy... This Pattison guy must have stole his TV spot on Slice... Need a hug "AboutDogTraining3" ?
By: kaYboi8o8. on 02 Feb 10, 00:51:23
Cesar Milan is? the best.
By: cschaffh. on 12 Jan 10, 19:07:20
Final anecdote (keeping in mind the complexity of aggression and variation in dogs). Observe the result of Dr. Dunbar working with an aggressive dog as discussed in Youtube video for TED. It is now dead. He was not willing to show aggression is socially unacceptable. Contrast with DW episode Seas 2 Ep 4 (for rent on Amazon). The dog? experienced discomfort and calm "alpha" rolls to demonstrate it could not dictate when to use aggression. It is alive. If PR reinforces new behavior, it will stick.
By: cschaffh. on 12 Jan 10, 18:56:52
Good discussion. Final thoughts: I agree "alpha leader" is inaccurate. More likely is simply authority figures within a social group capable of limiting? unacceptable behavior, like aggression. CM shows people must be an authority figure, the dogs are not. "Intimidation" training is oversimplifying. It must be done in the context of an authority figure, just like parents and kids. It is only used to facilitate non-aggressive behavior so that PR can introduced in a proper frame of mind.
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 12 Jan 10, 16:12:48
Just to follow up on this, the concept of dominance hierachies has been dropped from by nearly all researchers when it? comes to dogs and wolves. Paradoxically, a couple studies sponsored by NG were part of the reason we now accept there is no such thing as alpha leaders in dog groups.
By: MyDawgsRule. on 12 Jan 10, 06:57:16
@cschaffh? I am with you, particularly on the "PhD" and "middle ground" comments. I chose NOT to complete graduate work in animal behavior because of the rigidity of the curriculum. Glad to see a shift in dog training methods, especially in communicating with them in a language they clearly understand.
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 11 Jan 10, 18:25:38
I'll have to look? that DVD up.
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 11 Jan 10, 18:25:10
Using punishment to address simple behaviors that don't have an emotional component based on fear/anxiety/etc, punishment will work without question. Most of the cases we see on Pattison are behavior brought on by underlying emotional issues & while you can suppress behavior w/ punishment, it will never make an anxious dog not anxious. Punishment will never get rid of a dog's fears, won't make him? like other dogs Those techniques don't fix problems; it's management based on intimidation.
By: cschaffh. on 11 Jan 10, 16:28:55
It is from "Dominance Theory" DVD from 2009. I agree many experts don't have it all right, including PhD. My opinion is that people become biased towards their training. My opinion is that middle ground is more correct. I don't think my dog would rather die than feel momentary discomfort until he could control his behavior on his own and get consistent rewards. Otherwise don't use discomfort since it is? often not necessary and, like all techniques, can cause worsening if used incorrectly.
By: AboutDogTraining3. on 11 Jan 10, 07:41:14
I'm familiar with Pamela Reid and her book Exce-lerated Learning, an excellent resource. If you read it, you'll find that most of what Pattison claims about treats? to be wrong. His idea of punishment is also off base and as we learn in this book it must take place immediately after the behavior for it to become meaningful. Where is this quote from?
By: cschaffh. on 11 Jan 10, 05:31:13
Thank you for the link. I ask for your experience only to see what results you achieve with aggressive dogs. I do wonder how nursing is used to change aggressive behavior. I? see some potential resources to read: but I will begin with the following topic: "there has been a backlash of protest from a subset of trainers, rejecting the concept of dominance in its entirety. I argue that this is rash. Dominance hierarchies do exist among the majority of social animals..." Pam Reid PhD